My guest for Episode Brand-Spanking-New-Number-One of For Real is the unparalleled Bob Goff. Bob is the New York Times bestselling author of a bunch of books that have changed the way I think and live, including Love Does, Everybody Always, Live in Grace, Walk in Love, and Dream Big. He is an internationally beloved speaker and the founder of Love Does, a nonprofit human rights organization operating in Uganda, India, Nepal, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, and the Democratic Republic of Congo. In his spare time (!), Bob is the Honorary Consul to the Republic of Uganda, co-owner of The Oaks, podcaster to millions, husband to Maria, dad of three, and grandpa of one with one on the way.

Bob does not nap.

I hang out with Bob through our work coaching and leading writing workshops together, and I can just assure you that I take notes every single time. Our conversation in this episode was no exception. It is rich with Bob’s hard-won wisdom and experience, and we cover everything from faith to parenting adult kids to how to really see people well. And chickens. We talk about chickens.

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