Today we get into weeds that some of us have been conditioned to avoid. We are talking about how to have honest and awkward conversations about race. My guests are Adeaeze and Chad Brinkman, and they are experts in this space. Their wisdom has come at no small cost, and I am so grateful they took the time to share what they know. If you have ever felt intimidated or anxious or weary when it comes to having rich conversations about race, this is the spot for you. If you’ve tried to figure out what to do when you feel uncomfortable, defensive or misunderstood when it comes to talking about race, this is the episode for you. This conversation is such a valuable one for our times and it helps us put some language to the world we want, a world of integrity and reconciliation and relationships marked by grace.

Chad and Adaeze Brinkman are a married couple who intentionally live out their passion of sharing the Gospel of Jesus together in their community. Adaeze works in the creative arts and Chad is a physical therapist. They love traveling and adventuring together, taking in the beauty of God's creation and encouraging others to do the same.